The Slavery of Death: Part 22, Worldview Defense, Doubt, Love & the Rubbish of Self-Esteem

In Part 20 of this series--The Devil's Work--we discussed, in light of the work of Ernest Becker, how our cultural worldviews make us violent. Given that our cultural worldviews, what Becker calls a hero system, prop up our self-esteem in the face of death we defend these worldviews from threat and critique. We generally do this by demonizing outgroup members. According to Becker this produces the great tragedy of human existence: That which supports my self-esteem--the cultural worldview--is the source of human evil.

This argument is no mere theory. The dynamics Becker describes have been documented in the laboratory. Researchers have worked Becker's theory into a research paradigm called Terror Management Theory (TMT) that has garnered significant empirical support.

Developed in the mid-1980s by Sheldon Solomon, Jeff Greenberg, and Tom Pyszczynski, TMT has focused on two key questions rooted in the work of Ernest Becker:

1. Why are people so intensely concerned with their self-esteem?

2. Why do people cling so tenaciously to their own cultural beliefs and have such a difficult time coexisting with others different than themselves?
As we know, Ernest Becker gave an answer to the first question in The Denial of Death and an answer to the second in Escape from Evil. TMT follows Becker, suggesting that we are intensely concerned with self-esteem because it guides us through cultural worldviews that give life meaning and significance in the face of death. Solomon, Greenberg, and Pyszczynski summarize the core axioms of TMT, relating self-esteem to success in upholding cultural worldviews in order to achieve death transcendence:
TMT posits that humans share with all forms of life a biological predisposition to continue existence, or at least to avoid premature termination of life. However, the highly developed intellectual abilities that make humans aware of their vulnerabilities and inevitable death create the potential for paralyzing terror. Cultural worldviews manage the terror associated with this awareness of death primarily through the cultural mechanism of self-esteem, which consists of the belief that one is a valuable contributor to a meaningful universe. Effective terror management thus requires (1) faith in a meaningful conception of reality (the cultural worldview) and (2) belief that one is meeting the standards of value prescribed by the worldview (self-esteem). Because of the protection from the potential for terror that the psychological structures provide, people are motivated to maintain faith in their cultural worldviews and satisfy the standards of value associated with their worldviews.
Given the fact that self-esteem is involved in managing existential anxiety, Ernest Becker pointed out in Escape from Evil that the cultural worldviews that support our self-esteem are vulnerable to the critique of Otherness. The mere existence of alternative cultures, worldviews, religions, and value systems threatens the assumption that one’s own values, culture, or beliefs are timeless and eternal sources of meaning. Otherness threatens our self-esteem at the deepest level.

So in the face of this threat we demean, denigrate, or destroy ideological Others. We protect our existential equanimity by lashing out at difference. In the language of TMT we engage in worldview defense. In the words of Solomon, Greenberg, and Pyszczynski worldview defense occurs when we display “vigorous agreement with and affection for those who uphold or share our beliefs (or are similar to us) and equally vigorous hostility and disdain for those who challenge or do not share our beliefs (i.e., are different from us).”

We defend our worldview by siding with those who share our values and attacking those who do not, we display increased ingroup favoritism along with an increased tendency to denigrate outgroup members. And by engaging in these largely unconscious defensive processes we secure our cultural hero systems in the face of the existential threat posed by Otherness.

This is the source of human evil.

And empirical research backs up this conclusion. TMT studies have shown that, in the face of a death awareness prime, American participants denigrated non-Americans and Christians denigrated Jewish persons. In the face of death we lash out at these outgroup members to reap the solace found within our worldview, be that worldview based upon a nation or a god. And, more often than not, god and country are the very same things. In biblical language these are "principalities and powers" that keep us enslaved to sin due to our fear of death.

In many ways, you might say that the TMT research on worldview defense--denigrating outgroup members in the face of death--is how psychologists are studying demon possession in the laboratory.

In light of all this, how are we to be set free from the demonic impulse toward worldview defense?

Well, as described in the last post it seems clear that we have to "die" to the worldview and hero system. We have to "die" to the self-esteem project. And for the culturally religious, as described in the last post by Peter Rollins, this death also involves dying to the cultural god and religion.

But "death" here is largely a metaphor. What, exactly, does it look like when we "die" to the cultural worldview?

Let's get a start on an answer by thinking about this quote (a quote I ponder in the final chapter of The Authenticity of Faith) from Peter Berger and Anton Zijderveld in their book In Praise of Doubt:
Sincere and consistent doubt is the source of tolerance.
In light of the work of Ernest Becker I think we can see the reasoning at work here. If fundamentalism about our worldviews--a neurotic dogmatism driven by death anxiety--is the source of violence (e.g., worldview defense) then the way toward love, embrace, welcome and hospitality toward others is letting go of certainty. That is, if I doubt and question my worldview, if I hold it lightly, then there is little desire or impulse on my part to defend my worldview or demonize its critics.

Doubt becomes the precondition of love.

This is exactly what Becker concluded in Escape from Evil. Becker was skeptical that we could abandon all hero systems. He believed that we need myths to orient our life projects, values and "greater goods" to narrate our lives. But we need to protect against the evils inherent in these myths, how they dispose us to become violent. The way forward is to treat these hero systems as fallible and open to criticism. In biblical language, hero systems need prophets. Becker's assessment:
Men cannot abandon the heroic. If we say that the irrational or mystical is a part of human groping for transcendence, we do not give it any blanket approval. But groups of men can do what they have always done--argue about heroism, assess the costs of it, show that it is self-defeating, a fantasy, a dangerous illusion and not one that is life-enhancing and ennobling. As Paul Pruyser so well put it, "The great question is: If illusions are needed, how can we have those that are capable of correction, and how can we have those that will not deteriorate into delusions?" If men live in myths and not absolutes, there is nothing we can do or say about that. But we can argue for nondestructive myths...
This is, incidentally, what I think Peter Rollins is doing in Insurrection, arguing for a myth--a way to use religious language--that is less destructive compared to the dominant myth of Christianity. The notion that "God is love and only love" is less self-defeating and dangerous, it is more life-enhancing and ennobling.

In summary, the way toward love is to begin to die to the hero system that brings us into conflict with others. This may involve a "dark night of the soul" but it will generally manifest as a self-criticism, suspicion and doubt about the hero system. Of course, there is an emotional cost to all this. But it is worth the price to find better ethical footing. Dogmatism is comforting--It is existentially cozy to have all the answers--but doubt is the route toward love.

But there is more here than just doubt. Recall again the connection between the cultural worldview and self-esteem. The doubt here isn't abstract. We're doubting the things that give us legitimacy and significance. We're doubting the ground of our identity. So the doubt here is as much psychological as it is philosophical.

What might this doubt about the foundations of self-esteem look like?

I think one of the best descriptions of this comes from Paul in Philippians:
Philippians 3.7-11
But whatever were gains to me I now consider loss for the sake of Christ. What is more, I consider everything a loss because of the surpassing worth of knowing Christ Jesus my Lord, for whose sake I have lost all things. I consider them garbage, that I may gain Christ and be found in him, not having a righteousness of my own that comes from the law, but that which is through faith in Christ—the righteousness that comes from God on the basis of faith. I want to know Christ—yes, to know the power of his resurrection and participation in his sufferings, becoming like him in his death, and so, somehow, attaining to the resurrection from the dead.
Notice how Paul dies to the hero system. All those things that used to be props for his self-esteem project Paul now considers "loss" and "rubbish." It's also interesting to note how Paul focuses on the word "righteousness." As Ernest Becker points out, "righteousness" is just a religious synonym for self-esteem, it is the way we experience the self-esteem project within a religious hero system.

Paul has rejected all this. Paul rejects everything in his cultural worldview that made his life meaningful, important, significant and righteous.

In a certain sense, Paul no longer has self-esteem. He's left that game behind and the way it is pushed and pulled by a death anxiety that is masked as a quest for significance. Paul no longer has a self-esteem project. He has died to all that to attain to the resurrection from the dead.

Paul no longer lives. Rather, the resurrected Christ lives within him setting him free from the slavery of death and the power of the devil.

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59 thoughts on “The Slavery of Death: Part 22, Worldview Defense, Doubt, Love & the Rubbish of Self-Esteem”

  1. As I'm reading, so many thoughts swirl, and by the time I get to the end, I've lost most of them. This quote really struck me: "Dogmatism is comforting--It is existentially cozy to have all the answers--but doubt is the route toward love." Even as dogmatism addresses terror management, it inflicts terror of its own. It teaches its victims to either subscribe to it, or burn in hell. So casting it off, along with its many twisted rules and controls, becomes a terror, just in case it is really right. As you said, "We're doubting the ground of our identity." Once you make the turn of seeing the game, it loses its effect, but it seems to me, for an individual, that's a part of why doubt is so demonized, and love the road less traveled. 

    I'm currently reading Rollins' "The Orthodox Heretic and Other Impossible Tales." His commentary on his first story includes "the idea that authentic faith is expressed, not in the mere acceptance of a belief system, but in sacrificial, loving action. Here I reject the inner/outer distinction in which one can fool oneself into thinking that private beliefs are somehow more important or reflective of one's essence than public actions."

    In the context of the hero system, love gets defined as something entirely other than love. So coming out of it can be very confusing and difficult.

  2. And so the key to all of this is doubt? Sounds confusing (and maybe even paradoxical), but that means it's probably true (in my experience, anyway).

    I've always wondered about the meaning of dying to myself. This has got me thinking more on the topic. Great thoughts!

  3. "Paul no longer lives. Rather, the resurrected Christ lives within him
    setting him free from the slavery of death and the power of the devil."

    These theorists have, however, neatly done away with "him".  "He" is now gone.  Human beings become the mere receptacle of an empty consciousness, devoid of any locus at all, except for one from another dimension.

    I am a skeptic and doubter.  But I came here through this consciousness, just as everyone else.  Can any one of us argue that we are here today without any worldview?  I do not believe that Paul, or anyone else, is capable of giving up their self-awareness -- their only connection to Reality.  To do so requires that we die in fact, rather than in theory.  Only then will we give up our worldview and self-esteem.  Only then will we comprehend what evil truly is.

  4. "Once you make the turn of seeing the game, it loses its effect."

    A generally good insight well applied here.

  5.  ".....love gets defined as something entirely other than love. So coming out of it can be very confusing and difficult."

    This exact thought passes through my mind each and every day.  If it were possible to boil down all of Christianity to its bare essential, it would be some expression of this idea.

    "I wanna know what Love is, and I want you to show me".  "We love him, because he first loved us".  My mother loved me, before I was even born.  Love is something we must learn, and many of us never do.

  6. ". That is, if I doubt and question my worldview, if I hold it lightly, then there is little desire or impulse on my part to defend my worldview or demonize its critics."

    Just off the top of my head, it seems to me that this is the best we can hope to achieve. As Becker has concluded, and I tend to agree, we may not have the ability to 100% let go of all hero systems. I mean aren't we in danger of making TMT and the abandoning of our self-esteem projects just another self-esteem project?

    It's so confusing. I need to chew on this for a while.

  7. Terrific post and comments so far!  If I may, I'd like to establish this framework into an ambiguity.

    Central in much of Christian thinking is that god's central concern is our obedience. As one who's been involved in design and engineering, I look at this premise and think "well if this is truly the central concern, then the maker shouldn't create a self other than its own."

    But, looking around, I see self's by the billions; and simply put, all of us are made of the same stuff-  yet there's something in each of us at work organizing all this stuff into the unique people we experience each other to be: to me this is the miracle of miracles--that the supreme will of the universe, sets up a system whereby other wills each have real say in how they create themselves to be: you and I show up without our prior consent, but when we do, we have real say in how our self's get expressed. (Or at least that potential exists. We're well aware of road blocks we put in front of each other...)

    More, gravity works through centers. Centers are only mathematical points- even for bodies as big as the earth. One way biologists sort living entities from non-living is by whether something exists through centers; i.e.,  a cell is an organism because it's centered existence, while a rock isn't. You can chip rocks and lose appendages- but in rocks you'll never find an organizing center while for living things, an organism disintegrates when its center is lost. For human life, the words "self" and "center" name the same thing.

    So here's the ambiguity stated explicitly: On the one hand, true life is found through dying to self; while on the other, without a self, all living organisms die.

    When we hold that god's core concern is obedience, we collapse this ambiguity into a simple contradiction and all we have to do is live as compliant zombies until that good day when our wills will be drugged into one oceanic will. 

    Or, we can keep this ambiguity intact and recognize the genius in how such feat as I describe above is accomplished. In this case, our quest grows up, and our questions go from centering on obedience to centering on learning how to live with this genius which god puts forth. 

    I think the work done here by Richard and many of this commenting community is reaching for this genius! (IMO)

  8. Fist bump, Sam. I wonder if, in his youth, Jesus was caught up in the hero system too, "tempted in all things as we are." (Heb. 5:14).  Love so defined in a family that isn't really love certainly confuses a child. (http://luke173ministries.org/466773)

  9. "Even as dogmatism addresses terror management, it inflicts terror of its own.  It teaches its victims to either subscribe to it, or burn in hell.  So casting it off, along with its many twisted rules and controls, becomes a terror, just in case it is really right."

    Patricia, your thoughts continue to resonate with me as much as Dr. Beck's, as I feel I share so many of your experiences.  Heck, just last night I read that exact story in Rollin's book while on the train home from class :)  Please continue to share here, as I personally find even more kinship by you doing so.

  10. "But we can argue for non-destructive myths..."  This sentence stood out to me as an overarching truth, in general and as experienced personally.  I've been thinking a lot lately about love, and how we try to define the "ideal" ways and means of loving.  For me, I look to what I know of Christ.  (Which, even on that topic, people tend to form their own personal composite character.  'Talladega Nights' prayer scene with Ricky Bobby praying to "Dear Itty-bitty Baby Jesus (because that's my favorite Jesus)" is a perfect example of what I mean.)  In my heart of hearts, the Person of Christ that *I* know is merciful, compassionate, gentle, humble, kind, patient, forgiving, and more of similar qualities.  I may still be half into the self-esteem project (I will have to reflect on that forever, probably!)...but, the image / identity that I hope to emulate is Christ.  This series has been very thought-provoking; I'm so grateful for your generosity, Dr. Beck, in sharing your work here at the blog.

  11. Patricia and Sam, you're onto something here in calling out a "love" that causes pain and suffering to others, and then justifying it as righteous, because that's (according to a certain theology) the way God (or god) rolls.  I get so worked up about doing or saying hurtful things to others, in the name of God, and then claiming that it is righteous and just action.  Please.  Just admit that that kind of love is a failed, human love.  Not from or of God.  I guess it's bold of me to assert that with such certainty...  "As if" I know God.  But I could not worship a god whose love hurts.  Life hurts.  God is not Santa Claus.  He helps, He heals, but He doesn't necessarily supernaturally prevent all pain and suffering.  He sure as heck doesn't cause it, and then call it "love."  People do that stuff.  "Love is something we must learn..."  So true.  On a more practical and impacting level, we learn from the way others have loved us.  Moving up the food chain, our beliefs about love are shaped by our religious doctrine / dogma and theology.  Lord have mercy if love is wrongly defined at a theological level of absolute certainty.  Breaking free of that is a Houdini / Herculean effort; maybe only achieved by a divine intervention?

  12. I think the issues raised by Becker, Beck, et.al. are extremely important.  I just disagree with their premises.  Is death a good thing or a bad thing?  By what other mechanism are we to join God?  Christians tend to be positively schizophrenic (in the Hollywood sense of "split mind", not the medical term meaning "delusional") in their view of death.  The Bible says humans gave birth to death (I Cor. 15:21), ignoring the fact that animals here were living and dying 60 million years before we arrived.

    We stand over a grave and are supposed to feel both sorrow as well as joy -- simultaneously.  In this sense, God is the ultimate Other.  Is this our base-line worldview?  Are we then violent towards him?  No, in most religions everyone is lined up to be first for a blessing.  And Love.

    I do give kudos, all around, for those who valiantly wrestle with these issues.

  13. Thanks, Brandon. That really means a lot to me. Dr. Beck and this E.T. community have helped me see that I'm really not alone in this world. That's so cool that we're reading the same book. Don't you love the themes in Rollins' stories?

  14. One, awesome post.

    Two, great contextualizing of some great Christian principles--dying to self, a broken and contrite heart, humility. These are in some ways the most important Christian virtues, perhaps more so than love, precisely because they are the precondition of love. I can think I am loving while being a violent, overbearing, egotistical ass. When I am broken, contrite, bearing the cross, and repentant, God can (perhaps) begin to build love within me.

    Three, I still grapple your exegesis. You cite Phil 3:7-11, but if you kept reading, you'd find in the very next verses this language: "I press on toward the goal, to make it my own" (verse 12); "I forget what lies behind and strain forward toward what lies ahead" (verse 13); "I press on toward the goal for the prize of the heavenly call of God in Christ Jesus" (verse 14); "let those of us who are mature be of the same mind" (verse 15).

    Are you cherry-picking your verses, assuming that in versus 12-15 Paul collapses back into the ego-driven hero project? Or are you able to find a way to hold verses 7-15 together, as a coherent (and psychologically credible) account of discipleship? Anyone want to help me out here?

  15. I've recently discovered your blog and it has been amazing. This series, in particular, has led to a paradigm shift. It's not the kind where everything blows up in your face, it's the kind when you suddenly recognize what has been sitting in front of you in plain sight all along. The last time it happened was when I discovered N.T. Wright.

    I hope this isn't too brazen, but this series inspired me to jot down a few lines of half experimental exegesis/ half poetry here: http://kingdomofbrokenbread.blogspot.com/2012/02/tree-of-intimate-acqaintance.html

  16. This series has been incredibly revealing and continues to open wonderful doors on how to understand powers and principalities.  Thanks very much for this and to everyone else for the comments.

    What really stuck out was this sentence: "Cultural worldviews manage the terror associated with this awareness of
    death primarily through the cultural mechanism of self-esteem, which
    consists of the belief that one is a valuable contributor to a
    meaningful universe."

    I've heard a lot of people eliminate the doubt in their lives by saying, "Well, I know that God has a plan for me, so I won't worry about ___."  Such sayings typically come within the context of assuming God ordains ALL of us to contribute somehow.

    Can anyone familiar with TMT or these broader concepts perhaps comment on how that kind of attitude fits into death avoidance?

  17. You're so right that it's people doing hurtful stuff in God's name. The word "love" certainly doesn't mean the same thing to everyone, and so it's easy to see why so many people shy away from the term and the implications it has for them. Same thing with the word "Christian."

    I'm not sure why that link didn't post right. I'll try again. It's a list of abusive behaviors that get justified in the name of "love" in a family. And because of that, they often don't get addressed for what they are and what they do to someone.

    http://luke172ministries.org/466773

  18. "Sincere and consistent doubt is the source of tolerance."

    How very true. Unfortunately, as long as a majority of Christians see their salvation as dependent upon the strength of their personal faith - and not as a gift of God - they will never be willing to admit doubt, admit that they might be wrong, or admit that God might love those outside of their own group of "right thinkers." Since this "right thinking" is the source of their righteousness it is nothing less than "self-righteousness," and the source of intolerance as Richard, and those authors he refers to here, so insightfully conclude. As long as people can convince themselves that they DID something to "deserve" God's love, forgiveness, and grace it is very easy for them to condemn anyone else who DID NOT. Though they themselves would call it "salvation by works" if they could see it for what it is, they are unable to see their own hypocrisy, and are therefore blind to their own intolerance, lack of compassion, judgmentalism, and resulting un-Christlikeness. 

    When I think about the many connotations of "death" I am reminded of the saying, "you are dead to me," which is used in shunning, or excommunicating, someone from their church or family. I can think of nothing more devastating and unloving than the thought that someone is now seen as "dead" or nonexistent to those who once considered them as "family." Now THAT is "human evil."

    "That is, if I doubt and question my worldview, if I hold it lightly, then there is little desire or impulse on my part to defend my worldview or demonize its critics.

    Doubt becomes the precondition of love."
    I certainly understand the points being made here, and agree wholeheartedly that intolerance hinders love. However, I have come to accept a "worldview" which is that "God loves all the world, and will not fail to restore it -- NO exceptions." Because I do NOT doubt my worldview I am unable to accept any view which say otherwise. I will certainly listen to, thoughtfully consider, and "tolerate" the views of those who feel differently. But I will not "doubt" my worldview, for that would be doubting the love and power of God.... something I refuse to do. I can either have FAITH in the goodness and power of God, or I can listen to the voices of people who tell me that the salvation of the world is dependent upon man's faith and strength. While I most certainly will not demonize my critics, but choose to love them instead, I will not tolerate the intolerant view that God does not love all of mankind and will not succeed in restoring all of us to a loving relationship with Him. And so, being intolerant of intolerance I refuse to separate myself from any of my fellow man - which is "death" - and refuse to accept my own "self-esteem" above others, but instead take on the infinite value that God holds for every one of us.

    Whoops, there I go again. I fully intended to simply agree with Richard's insightful article and once again find myself getting up on my soapbox. Forgive me, but I cannot separate myself from the Calvinists, and Arminians, and Buddhists, and Mormons, and Muslims, and atheists, and.... To do so would be to separate myself, and them, from the love of God. Sorry.... I won't do it.

  19. Patricia, a year or two ago (I lose track), I watched a documentary titled, 'Lord, Save Us From Your Followers.'  Dan Merchant was the filmmaker behind the project of interviews with Christians, those who had been hurt by them, and Church leaders.  I remember in an interview with Tony Campolo the statement, "The Church is a whore, but she's my mother."  Ouch!  I have had my ups and downs with the institutionalized church (hello, powers and principalities!)

    In the documentary, so many marginalized, "outgroup" peoples were interviewed, and their stories of being excluded and openly "hated" by church-y people was heartbreaking.  From a societal level, I felt grieved for my complicity (sins of omission, if not outright commission) in the damage religious zeal had caused now, and in the past.  Maybe that is a part of "dying with Christ" in his absorption of sins that he did not commit?  But, the point should probably be made that it wasn't just a spiritualized empathy...  With Christ, it was a compassionate (active), restorative embracing of wrongs in order to make right.  A merciful justice?

    Your wisdom and grace are a healing presence with us through your insightful words, Patricia.  ~Peace~

  20. Thanks, Susan. Like all of us, I'm just learning as I go, and folks you like you sure do help. Like Sam, I vacillate between seeing God as present or not, depending on the day. I think, what kind of god would create a world that he knew would become such a mess as this, and drop innocent children into hellish situations where they have no voice, and no way out? And then expect "his people" to address situations that should never have been?  (Hello, Theodicy, my old friend.) And then, like Jim, I think, well, He promises to restore things to how they should be. Things are supposed to be made right, and if He is truly just, they will be, and that's why Jesus came. Dark Knights of the Soul are the hope whisperers.
    Peace to you as well.

  21. In the original draft of the post I had verses 12-15 and went on to discuss it in light of Becker's quote above that we can't live without a hero system, but we have to live a life wrestling against it. The idea of sanctification.

  22. I agree, this community has helped tremendously.  I've been reading the blog for quite some time now, but only recently began commenting and participating more.  So strange how online community can help in these ways :)

    And Rollins is great.  His insights really have the ability to blow me away at times.  What I wouldn't give for an Ikon-type community here in Chicago :)

  23. Looks like the way forward means an end to dualism by necessitating criticism of ones ego.  I am wondering if this if this is a stage in spiritual evolution.  The identity in the self esteem of a child, I wouldn't want to scrap.  That feels violent.  Or is my thinking coming out of a store of cultural myth?  Hmm, makes you think...

  24. Like Patricia, I cannot make the links function work here.

    With all due respect, I do not know how to be "intolerant of intolerance".  How does one exercise a trait they abhor?  I see what you are saying, I simply don't know how to do it.  I discriminate every day, about almost everything.  I don't really know how not to and remain functional.

    Having said that, and while I give kudos to Becker and Beck, I want to know what is so horrid about death that it should fill us with this overwhelming anxiety, creating the need for hero systems, denial, self-esteem, and worldviews.  Is not God the ultimate Other?  Are people at war with him?  Committing violence against him?  Is this the base-line worldview from which all others spring?  I see most religions as attempts, not to war with this Other, but to get to the head of the line for his blessings, favor, and Love.

    Christians are positively schizophrenic in their view of death.  In the Hollywood "split brain" version, not the true medical meaning of "delusional".  We stand over graves and are supposed to feel both sorrow and joy -- simultaneously.  The Bible blames us for death itself (I Cor.15:21), ignoring the animals that lived and died here 60 million years before we came along.  Without true death (not death the theory), we cannot be with God.  We cannot know Love, and we will never understand evil.

    I think we fear death, not for the reasons stated in this series, but because we understand that it involves physical, mental, emotional, and psychological PAIN, with the possibility of oblivion thrown in.  This is why I remain of two minds on this subject.  One the one hand, death could hurt and be the end of me.  On the other, it could be a doorway to another existence, where I finally see and understand the *real* world.  Lately I favor this more mystical view, since I think I have seen a glimpse of it.

  25. I agree that promoting humility will "preach" - humility not as "worm theology", but seeing oneself in truth, particularly in relationship to others, and being willing to not be acknowledged or seen as "special".  This is very difficult.

    N.T. Wright has thrown some doubt (!) on the definition of the word "righteous" as "right-ness" - he rather sees it as "(covenant) faithfulness.  Part of our in-group problems comes from lack of understanding of the Jewish context of Christianity and what that all means.

    Finally, I think we "other" others on an individual level as well as a group level.  Can't remember if I have mentioned Christos Yannaras' "The Freedom of Morality" to you, Richard, but I found it so helpful wrt the idea of sin relating to insuring my own survival at the expense of others, and the Eastern church theology behind that.

    I've followed the career of Frank Schaeffer through the years - he's still angry, but his anger is tempered, and your quote "Sincere and consistent doubt is the source of tolerance" is the watchword that underlies his talks - made me think of him immediately.

    I'm very much looking forward to the book.

    Dana

  26. Sam, thanks for your great insight and openness. I always appreciate your honesty and your willingness to question and hold others accountable for their claims.

    As to my "intolerance to intolerance," it was perhaps a poor attempt at infusing some humor into my comments. I most certainly do "tolerate" conflicting views all the time. My point is that when someone says, "Jim, you must accept the possibility that God may not love all of mankind, or that He has chosen to save only some," my reaction is, "No, I will not accept those presuppositions because they completely contradict my understanding of God as revealed in Christ." Accepting those other possibilities would require that I completely abandon what my heart and mind tell me is true about God, and accept instead a "god" who is reprehensible to me. I simply can't do it. I have long since decided that I want nothing to do with a "god" who is unwilling or unable to restore his creations. In either case, that "god" would not deserve my admiration and worship, so I can easily understand why so many Christians claim that "most of mankind rejects God," because I reject their notion of God. I don't demonize them for claiming to "love" such a "god," for I see it as the result of religious brainwashing and fear, and the simple fact that they have not rationally considered the implications of their beliefs and seen the contradictions within them. In holding God to the highest of standards I am most certainly "discriminating" against what I see as low or non-existent standards -- as in "God can do WHATEVER He wants and we should still love and worship Him." No. I will not worship a "god" who does ANYTHING. He must be responsible for His creation just as an earthly father must be responsible for his children. Neither should abandon any of his children and I simply won't accept the notion that God ever would.

    I completely agree with your assessment that Christians are schizophrenic about death. They first claim that God will defeat death, but then turn around and claim that our deaths as "unbelievers" can defeat God's will that "all men be saved."

    "I see most religions as attempts, not to war with this Other, but to get to the head of the line for his blessings, favor, and Love."

    Once again I completely agree. And orthodox Christianity is, as I see it, at the head of the class in this regard. Scripture tells us that "God was in Christ reconciling the world to Himself," but the "church" then tells us all the things we must do to reconcile ourselves with God. Like their view of death, Christians are schizophrenic when it comes to earning/deserving God's love and grace -- an oxymoron if there ever was one.

    I believe that the "fear of death" that faith in God/Christ overcomes is the elimination of the fear that anything - death included - could separate us from His love. The thought of our physical deaths does include the fear of "physical, mental, emotional, and psychological PAIN," but it also brings the promise that those pains will end. If we believe that God does exist, and that He has promised to restore His creation to a state without sin and death, then we can enjoy the peace that comes through the understanding that our suffering in this life is only temporary, and that God is always working towards the ultimate happiness of all mankind.

    By all means, go for the "mystical view," for in it is the divine. And I have no doubt that you have seen it (Him).

  27. Hello Patricia,

    " I think, what kind of god would create a world that he knew would become such a mess as this, and drop innocent children into hellish situations where they have no voice, and no way out? And then expect "his people" to address situations that should never have been? "

    Actually, you said this in the subpost below but there was no Reply button at that level so I answer here - this particular question (child abduction, trafficking and things I cringe at thinking about)  - if we were given only 1 question we were allowed to ask God when we meet with him, this (exactly the way you worded it) might be it.

    Thanks again Patricia!Gary Y. 

  28. This sent me scurrying off to re-read the preface to the play "Doubt: A Parable" by John Shanley... http://bit.ly/vZo7K7

  29. Hello Gary,
    Guess my "Winter Christian" nature is showing today, eh?
     I was thinking in particular about the precious little boys killed last week by their father with an explosian and a hatchet. Those little boys never had a chance, and no theology makes that comprehensible to me.

  30. I too have followed closely the career of Frank Schaeffer.  I have read all of his books, corresponded directly with him, and read his blog on Huffington Post.  He is most assuredly intolerant of conservative Americans in general, and the Christian Right in particular -- a political organization he claims to have founded with his father in the early 1980's.  I have never seen him express any doubt concerning the superiority of his now left-leaning views.

    I mean no disrespect here, but feel the need to challenge the assertion that he has any doubt.  If he does, it is well hidden from me.

  31. Thanks for your thoughts, Jim.  I always learn from you.  For the time being, I *am* sticking to the mystical view.  The very fact that you have "no doubt" in this context means much to me.

  32. For what it's worth, I reacted violently against the idea of self-esteem as a child--perhaps in part because I had a low one, but perhaps also in part because I saw serious problems with it (ie. feeling good about oneself seemed misplaced to me at the time; being good seemed a better idea). The important thing is that the concern with self-esteem was taught to me. I did not come with it. And I experienced that teaching as an imposition. So I don't know if anyone is advocating that we take away children's self-esteems. Changing how we teach it might be better.

  33. Previously you've used "tentativeness." I like "provisionalness" or "provisionality" as well. "Humility," while being a word that works in well in Christian circles, has too much baggage sometimes, I think. (Consider how many people use "humility" to mean "relying on God's wisdom instead of my own," which in turn usually means a received and unreflective reading of the Bible.) Also, it doesn't work so well when you're trying to talk to non-Christians, since they might not consider humility a virtue. "Provisional" and "tentative," being words favoured by both empiricists and postmodernists, get more traction with certain non-Christians.

  34. After reading this, my first, reactive, thought was about this - the difference between "doubt" and "humility" (which, for functioning purposes within your context is probably mostly semantics).  I'm glad I read through the comments to find this.

    I fully agree with the premise of "doubt", but of course there are multiple sources of doubt (depending on the presuppositions).  The doubt that theologians experience is not the same as the doubt of those like Hawking, Hitchens, and Dawkins.  Thus, I was going to say (before reading the comments), that my only quibble with this post has to do with this.  I'm glad I'm not the only one who had this reaction.

    Furthermore, I've sat into this difference a bit, and I honestly think that emphasizing humility is both more "biblical" and a much stronger theological argument than mere "doubt" that will produce the results we hope will come.  The way I see it, Christianity has really done itself a disservice by not recognizing or emphasizing humility as Christ's primary ontological posture (both in the fact of incarnation and in the example He set through every recorded action).  Not only did he not speak to people in any way similar to how we think the divine Word incarnate would naturally have mandate to, His humility, if truly seen for the example that it really is, far surpasses us to the point that we may notice that the "religious language" seems downright arrogant and ignorant of something so inexorably part of His earthly being.  By focusing on the humility of Christ and the necessary non-arrogance characterized by it, I think that doubt can be included into the conversation along with the Biblical/theological warrant for its primacy.  I think this leads nicely into the concepts of self-esteem and identity as well.

    Altogether, as you know, fantastic post and series.  This HAS to be a book - and certainly one which I would both read and recommend to as many people as possible.

    Any further thoughts on this?

  35. I don't know of research on that exact topic, but in my Defensive Theology Scale I assess beliefs that tap what I call Special Destiny which assesses "God has a plan for me" beliefs. Most of that research is summarized in The Authenticity of Faith.

  36. Thanks for that. Very interesting take.

    And it's not brazen at all. Everyone here is encouraged to link to their blog or things they have written.

  37. I agree that "we can argue for non-destructive myths" is one of Becker's more profound lines. I think about it a great deal. I ask myself a lot: How does what I believe get in between myself and others?

  38. I'll take that compliment. Though truth be told, any originality here is making in connections. Mainly connecting Ernest Becker with Christus Victor theology (with a nod to William Stringfellow who catalyzed the connection).

    I really like your idea about "collapsing the ambiguity" and the trouble it causes. In an earlier post I talked about being relaxed in the face of that ambiguity. I think that's key. Loving people are relaxed in the face of ambiguity.

  39. I think that is the best a majority can achieve. I think some (my critique about Peter Rollins's book last week comes to mind) can go further, but even then I wonder how free they are from a personally-held hero system. We all have answers as to what a good, true, and beautiful life looks like. And for better or worse, our answers to those questions will create a hero system, a way to apply those adjectives to my own life. The key is to keep those answers under constant examination and scrutiny to ensure they don't create destructive (toward self and others) habits of thinking, feeling, and behaving.

  40. I think you're right. I actually like kenosis even better. You see the connection between self-emptying and love very clearly in Philippians 2.

  41. Yes. The word humility makes us think about self-evaluations. And here I'm talking about humility regarding your worldview, an anti-dogmatic stance. Tentativeness and provisional do get at that facet much better. The only trouble with those terms is that they tend toward the epistemological and I'm trying to reach for a virtue. 

  42. I don't think we can ever escape the anxiety. The issue, as you point out, is will I handle my anxiety neurotically by projecting it (often aggressively) onto others or learn to live with it in a more direct and less destructive manner?

    As I see it in this series, the issue is less about the fear of death than a slavery to the fear of death. Slavery to fear is the problem, not the fear itself.

  43. Richard,

    It seems to me that a helpful illustration for understanding doubt is rainbow-like using the German words--unglaube (unbelief, distrust), aberglaube (superstition, magical thinking), anderglaube (dissent), and glaube (belief, faith, trust)--along a spectrum.  We move back and forth along the rainbow.

    And by the way, it also seems to me that that tolerance comes not from doubt or smugness but from secure certainty.  For some the "other" is a threat when one is uncertain.

    Blessings!  

  44. "...tolerance comes not from doubt or smugness but from secure certainty.  For some the "other" is a threat when one is uncertain."

    An excellent point. I have seen this often by those who blindly accept religious dogma in their reactions to any challenges to those teachings. Since they have never rationally worked out their beliefs in their own minds, but have instead simply accepted the orthodox teachings, they have no rational basis with which to defend their beliefs. The end result is that they can only attack the challenger instead of logically refuting the challenges. If someone is "secure in their certainty," by having thoroughly worked through every aspect of their beliefs, they will feel no threat when others question them. It is only when they are uncertain in their own minds that they refuse to discuss those beliefs.

  45. Hi Dana (and Sam)...count me among Frank Schaeffer's fan club.  I have read all of his autobiographical books (out of order), but not his fiction series.  It is Frank's honest (very human, imperfect) struggle to reconcile his faith that I admire most.  He doesn't "pretty up" the story to protect anyone or anything (institution of evangelical, fundamentalist Christianity), including himself.  Also, I am touched to witness in Frank's writing a process of making peace with himself, others, and God.  The anger he felt/feels is not altogether foreign to my own reaction/experiences.  Frank's story has helped me to empathize with and forgive those who have misrepresented God or otherwise disappointed me in the Church.  Especially pastors and their kids.  :-)

    I have a sense about Frank's faith journey that he feels O:K with not knowing everything in absolute terms about God.  Maybe he doubts his inability to know God perfectly?  Having a core belief in the goodness of God frees a person from fear of the future (eternal?) unknown, I think.  As far as seeming to be very certain in his current political activism, that is the difficulty in *living* one's faith with just the right balance of confidence and humility, perhaps.  Do we all have to act upon our deepest convictions, prayerfully, and live with our choices?  Think about Dietrich Bonhoeffer in his decision to participate in the assassination attempt on Hitler.  Was that a proper pastoral, Christlike action?  In prison, Bonhoeffer journaled his doubts, in retrospect, as to what he had done.  Had it been the right thing?  How would the world judge him?  He trusted that God knew his heart, and would judge him fairly.  I don't know.  I struggle with this kind of thing a lot.  I'm always second-guessing myself, because life is rarely very black and white, cut-and-dried, in terms of right and wrong.  I'm pretty open about speaking my mind, and that often gets me in big trouble!  Blessings to you both.  Thanks for adding these thoughts to the discussion.  Very relevant.

  46. Yeah, you know it...  Recently, my husband has been revisiting the question of whether Christ (knowledge of, belief in him) is the one and only way to God.  It freaks me out a little, I have to admit, when he talks that way.  And he is talking that way because lately he has been interacting with so many obnoxious Christians of a particular denomination in his work environment.  It is exhausting and discouraging to him to keep faith in Christ when so many of his representatives are portraying him in an unflattering light.  I always say, don't hold it against God, what imperfect people do in His name.  Hold onto God and reject the dogmatic pronouncements and judgments of zealous people.  We've been down a long and winding road of faith together over the past 16 years.  But here's something that I am keeping at the forefront of my mind, as I live out my faith alongside my husband, especially in his doubting and discouraged moments.  One of the events which played big in my husband's ability to begin to have faith in Christ came upon the death of his father.  My late-father-in-law was a devout Hindu Brahmin.  My husband, a longtime skeptic of the religious beliefs of his family of origin, questioned the eternal state of his father/father's soul.  He *dared* me to proclaim that his father was in hell.  Oh, Dr. Beck.  Looking back, I am so thankful that I did not speak any such curse on my f-i-l.  It would have devastated my husband, and probably turned him away from Christ forever.  In spite of still being pretty locked into that doctrinal paradigm (heaven, hell, salvation, punishment), I gently expressed the hope that somehow, someway, God would make a way to honor my f-i-l's good heart and embrace him in eternity.  So, all that said, look where I am now in my faith?  Really much more strongly committed to universal reconciliation.

    Another thing, though, that is a source of conflict in beliefs and convictions as "lived" faith:  there are times that a choice to dismantle barriers between myself and one person will necessarily erect barriers between myself and another (or group of others).  In other words, I can never please everyone.  Again, Bonhoeffer.  Though I'm no hero at his level (martyrdom), I relate to the anguish of making decisions that separate me from some while bringing me together with others.  Early in my marriage, I had to make a choice "for" my mother in a situation of desperate need, which necessarily created a tension between myself and my husband.  I chose according to my deepest convictions, and in the end, my husband understood and even thanked me for doing what I did.  But there were many years of hard times because of this conflict.  Caught in the middle.  That is the paradoxical nature of life and human relations.  I don't know all the answers.  I pray, like Bonhoeffer, that God knows my heart and will judge me fairly.  Thanks for your thoughtful interaction.  ~Peace~

  47. Richard,

    You write that "Doubt becomes the precondition for love."  If by that you are suggesting that doubting our idols is a precondition for loving other humans, then I concur.  It seems to me that to the extent that humility preconditions doubt that doubt might become the precondition for love.  For me, it is not "Cogito" or "Dubito ergo sum," but "Carito ergo sum."

    Helmut Plessner's counter-Cartesian "embodied" view that because we are bodies we are uniquely, eccentrically situated not only in and with our egos but in and with others at the same time is very helpful.  Vittorio Gallese's physiological and neuroscientific research feeds this "body" of thought about intersubjectivity.   Martin Buber laid out this epistemology with his "I-Thou" theology.  

    Alas, Platonic, Manichean, Gnostic, and Cartesian dualisms are the Frankenstein monster in Western thinking that is hard to tame.

    Blessings!

  48.  Sure, he's inconsistent at times.  That's part of why I like him...

    Didn't mean to go off on this tangent.

    Dana

  49. Jim,

    In speaking of secure I was thinking affect: aware of, comfortable, accepting of one's own views not needing to defend them but able to do so if needed.  I may have not even have a "rational" basis, though it might be reasonable.  More like a dynamic process moving toward integrity, wholeness, and authenticity of faith (nice sound for a book title, ehh).

    Blessings!

  50. " ...aware of, comfortable, accepting of one's own views not needing to defend them but able to do so if needed"

    Exactly. But the book title will never go over. ;)

  51. I'm curious about a background assumption here--one that is counterintuitive. Cynicism and disillusion would be the expected results of losing faith in one's hero system, but following Becker's indictment of them, we understand that we must be able to see through them (worldview/hero system/self esteem props) as a "precondition of love." (Your words.) The assumption: remove the cause of bad behavior and good behavior will replace it. Yet it's not remotely close to being that simple for most of us. (And even for Paul it wasn't uniformly so, as Romans 7, for instance, shows.) 

    Here's what I'm interested in: Is there in Christian conversion--and let's assume there's an ideal of that--an immediate recognition of what a person wisened through years of working through the disillusionment of losing faith in her worldview finally arrives at? Perhaps there's something circular implied in the question: the ideal conversion is the one which leads to love and wisdom in the face of loss. But, then, what IS the psychological trigger of that ideal faith response...? 



     

  52. The link between certainty and violence explains why the era of modern philosophy - which you could arguably define as the search for certainty -  was also the bloodiest in human history. 

  53. Susan, thanks for sharing such a beautiful example of how throwing away the religious dogma that we have been indoctrinated with, and trusting our God-given hearts instead, will lead to a true faith in God -- that He is the savior of the world.

    "Recently, my husband has been revisiting the question of whether Christ (knowledge of, belief in him) is the one and only way to God."

    The verse in question here is just another example of those that so many Christians (obnoxious or not) use to "prove" that only Christians will be saved. Interestingly enough, the verse says nothing about who will and who will not be saved, but that Christ is the one who will decide who comes to the Father. And in conjunction with His promise - "I will draw ALL men to me" - there should be little doubt as to who He will choose to save.

    Blessing to you Susan.

  54. " I have long since decided that I want nothing to do with a "god" who is unwilling or unable to restore his creations. In either case that "god" would not deserve my admiration and worship,..."

    Really? So one can decide what "god" or "God" is deserving of my admiration and worship??

    So in light of Jesus the Christ, doing what no man could/can do, I can choose to reject the "god" or "God" whom I had no hope  of restoration to? even if it is humanly, and utterly unpalatable??

    I am not so sure about that.

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